#13: Jackie "The Joke Man" Martling formerly of The Howard Stern Show

00:00:00
Speaker 1: Scary and Brodie bonus episode. I said, Brody scary. Ready. They couldn't hear you. I had your Mica, I hate you. Up Up. It's not a broken bott up. They make it noise dot up up bonus. Okay, we have a problem. What's that we're about to explain we have a bonus episode. I'm very excited that we're gonna run down the hall real quick. This is great, but you never get us twice in a week, that's right. Um, we interviewed, we did podcast with the episode twelve yesterday yesterday, and we said, oh, we're gonna thirteen. We're gonna update you guys, but we we just booked an interview, which I'm I cannot believe. I thought it was a phoner. We gotta run down the hall and and then even down the hall. Is this gonna be episode thirteen? And we'll make next week this problem And by the way, I've run into this problem. What do you want to call it? Now? It's called you want to call it? Yeah, and then we'll just just called it bonus. But it needs a number. The son of a Bitch and and bees now just be called thirteen. And we called the twelve and a half. No, make it, make it thirteen. We'll just come back on fourteen next week and say it should have been thirteen and fourteen. So this is number thirteen. Yeah, unless you lael at fourteen. But posted first, it's being labeled. People are seeing the title and go across the screen, right, team, the already know the answer if they're if we've titled it after, By the way, it's not if you're hearing this. You're hearing this. It's right. You're hearing this and you're looking at your screen. You're like, I wonder what they're gonna are arguing. I wonder what they're gonna decide. I wonder giving away the freaking punch line after before the we're going down the hall to interview a radio legend. One of the reasons I'm in radio is because of the Howard Stern Show. I grew up listening to shoot your Pants, I'm Gonna ship my pants before I long before I work for Elvis, ten years, fifteen years before I worked for Elvis, I listened to Howard Stern Show before there was an US Raymore show, and the guy who wrote the jokes wrote them on a piece of paper handed him Howard wrote a lot of the comedy. The song parodies basically who does what I do? Now? Uh, he's down the hall and we have an interview with him. The entire interview is going to be with Jackie the joke Man, like six minutes. But we should get down there and get ready and get in the studio. So we're gonna go down the hall and in a minute you're gonna hear it. So yeah, we're gonna in fact, we're gonna stop this recording and then we're gonna be appearing in another studio with totally different microphone and acoustics, so totally different sound. Thanks for listening to bonus episode. Enjoy Jackie the joke Man. Whether you like Howard or not, I'm excited to meet him, and hopefully it's just he's fun. He's a fun guy. He's a comedian. Now he's not on the show anymore. He's had he's had a book coming out, yeah, called Bow to Stern, which let's ask him about that too. What that means? All right, let's do that. All right, Well, this is David Brodie and it's Scary Jones. We are here. We're here with a true radio legend Jackie the joke man Martling. Okay, sir, I'd be fine, except every time I hear legend, it translates in my mind to old. Aside from that, I will take it as a compliment. Thank you very much for the air time or whatever we're doing. All right, let me let me give you a bit of a little bit of background about me. First. Here's what I do see pretending I care about No, I'll tell you why. Hey, let me tell you about me. I do want to hear. For the past twenty years, I have stood by next to the host of a nationally syndicated radio show, and I write jokes for him, and I write song parodies and sketch commercials and and spoofs and things of that nature and jingles for the last last twenty years. In three when I started college, I listened to w NBC Radio and listen to the Howard Stern Show every day. Um, and I remember the commercial with Howard sterns Soupy Sales and don Imus and all the stuff that was in private parts I heard live. I heard when when Gary first said that he had a Baba Buoie original piece of artwork. I know all of it, and I do for a living what you did for the Howard Stern Show. And so when people say to me, what exactly do you do for for the show, because I listen to Howard, and I said, because that's people love to say that, I say, well, I'm basically Jackie the joke man on my show. And then they know what I do that you know, I love that flying gag writer. Yeah, and so um, I'm fascinated because what I do is I write on paper. But I've heard rumor that you had one of those projectors overhead that shot the jokes up on the wall. How did you get the jokes to Howard? The great thing about my book is all the questions I answered, Why I left, how much money, what happened with Jessica Han, etcetera, including how that works? Okay. I sent my albums to him. Be called in three and said, we listened to your albums. Want you come in and help judge a talent contests over the phone. I went in hung out with Howard, Robin and Fred and we laughed for four hours and they said, you're a pistol. Come back next week. I came back next week for three years for free and slowly, but surely I would like, you know, we made Mrs Flemstein who answered the dirty jokes, and I'd give them some rank outs, and sometimes I'd give him an idea. It was so gradual, so organic, I cannot even recount it. I just know at some point I said the hell of this and got an actual stack of white paper and sharpie. Hold on a second. Wow, fantastic, he's laughing. Everything you're saying is exactly how life at the radio station unfolded for David Broke. I came in to write some jokes and song parodies free for free for a year and a half. They gave me a stack of white paper. Oh I can't believe at the time, but nobody handed me any paper. I just went on my own. It was kind of bulls because, I mean the very beginning when I handed him ideas, he looked at me like I was a side. And then when I was home during the week or of a sudden, I hear one of my ideas pop up on the radio, and the next time I came in, he kind of like cheapiestly say what you know? Else you got? And then it's somehow it just worked. He got fired and then rehired, and I was there one day a week, and it just graduated to where I was actually writing uh on a piece of paper, and he had an easel, you know none You know how you have a loose leaf notebook and an open loose leaf nape notebook on the left on the podium, and an open loose leaf notebook on the right with a hole in the robin in the robin between so he could see Robin. And I would literally write what I was writing and flip it over and put it on the side of the loose leaf. But he's looking at Robin and he could see what I wrote. And he was so brilliant that he could just work in whatever I said, and he was. It was seamless from the beginning. That's why for the most part, people had no idea what I was doing, because it was seamless. You know. He would take what I wrote and either working in he might change it around and make it about Fred, making about me. It was brilliant. And then when we were going to mornings, he called me up and this was our entire business conversation for fifteen years. He said, I want you to come in two days a week and do your thing with the notes. That was my job description. I came in and did and I went for two to three to four to five days because he was funny when I was there, and so I was literally right him and flipping him over for the longest time, right through uh when we were at six hundred Madison until I think it was to whatever year was that the show came, which was my idea which is also in the book. And when the show came, we had a lipstick camera looking down at the bin, so I'd write what I wrote. It wasn't computer or typing. It was you know, it was polish computer, you know. I I wrote the no and put it under the thing, and it came up on a television monitor where Howard could see it. And then when we went to the bigger studio there was a monitor on either side. Here's an interesting that apparatus, uh is something that Brody recognized and remembered seeing, and it was has been trying to get for our show. Absolutely I need that thing. Well, you know, I came up, I said why we were going to Channel nine and we were breaking our balls, all right. So we're working five days a week, five hours starting at six in the morning. We're killing ourselves. And we got a TV show in ce Caucus. And after the first year, we would you know, we didn't even know if we wanted to be renewed because we was so fried. I mean, the radio shows enough, we're you know, Monday you got a blank piece of paper, and Friday you needed one hour. We can never imagine doing a crazy radio show like you did and doing a television show on top of it, So which was insane. Why are we going to ce Caucus. We got all the show we need right here, Howard robbing me, Gary Fred This is a whole show right here, and they made fun of me. And then, of course, one day Howard came up with this great idea of video in the radio show. But the whole thing is they made fun of me. But I didn't think we would ever have a radio show in that studio because there was no way to have a camera that wouldn't catch me flipping the notes over. But sure that, you know, sure the hell they got the lipstick camera. And now here's an interesting one. We'd have all these guests on, and every time Howard had a guest on, he would always put on dark glasses he'd have on his shades, which absolutely fit his persona. You know you're you're you know, you're Justicahn and you come in to sit there and he's gone on his his but the the computer monitor is a little bit to the left, so he's talking to you, but he's wearing sunglasses. You have no idea that you see it, that he's reading off the monitor. So all these celebrities he's talking to have no idea. You that he's reading what I'm writing, which and which is pretty brilliant. At some point, did Howard and if I miss this, I apologize. Did he ever tell the audience that he was that you were doing that? No, you know, never. It kind of eaked out. It was so funny because um, people have talked about it, and you should see the people attacking me on the web. You know, everybody knows you were right from what kind of crap? What are you talking about? But in the first couple of years, nobody had any idea. For years, they had no idea. I just talked to people today that have no idea because who can't you see Johnny Carson doing jokes. You don't care if he's reading him it's a monitor. Who's right. You want to laugh at what he's saying. You want to be entertained, you don't care. But I was doing that for so long and and there's some funny, funny stories in the book about when I thought it was gonna eat out because by hook or by crook, this happened. And uh, it wasn't a secret per se. But in the beginning, nobody knew anything. You know, in the very beginning, people came up and said, hey, I heard Robin's black is it true? Or you know, I mean, in the beginning, nobody knew anything. So it took a long time, and then eventually people started to know. And then you know, but we go on on these radio junkets, you know, and we'd be in Los Angeles, so we're being you know, Las Vegas, and I'd be sitting next to Howard. I'd be writing notes and putting them in from of them, and the radio writers will be like Jesus Christ. We sat there and watched Jackie Martling hen Howard joke after joke. Who knew that was going on? You know? So it was it was a fun little inside thing, you know. Do you get frustrated. Did you get frustrated? Cause I get frustrated sometimes when you write a great joke, it's you nailed it and you hand it to the host and they don't do it. I get it's hard to keep it like because you're being filmed, you're on the radio. If I see he doesn't do the joke, I'll go, oh damn it. It's such a good joke, you know. Do you get frustrated? Did you back then? Uh? Not really, because it was we were on the fly and you're just moving so fast that it was so interesting. Sometimes if I wrote something funny enough, he would literally work the conversation back around so he could come back down the road and hit the joke, which was amazing. There are a certain amount of times where I wrote something and Fred me being there made I was a conduit. So also Fred could write stuff and pass it to me. So the reason the show was so ridiculously funny is we not only had three really funny guys writing coming out of how It, but three distinct senses of humor. Howard's a big broad you know, sees the big picture, and I'm a punchline guy, and Fred is from out of space, So the three completely different senses of humor, but a certain amount of times where it wrote something and as I put it in the bin, Fred hand Toby verbatim the same thing, which is just you know, we were really sharing a brain and you know, and I think we're both brilliant. So it was really fun. Like I'd like, I go, point, it's in there already and he couldn't believe that. Did you ever write a joke about a coworker, like a joke about Robin that was really cutting Howard delivers it? She got mad at you for it, and you're like, wait a minute, he said, no, nobody ever got mad. But that was Yeah, that was always the whole point of the show. Like how it'd be like, uh, don't look at me. He wrote it, and I say, don't look at me. He said it, you know, but yeah, no, no, it was it was equally bandied about. Um. It was so it was so crazy interesting, like if I wrote something horrible about Robin but he changed it to make it about Fred, or he said something about Fred and one one real missnomer is um there were things that he that he passed by that that breaks your heart, but you couldn't you couldn't dwell on it and not. There were a couple of things I wrote for him that was so funny that I said, you know what, I'll just take that home. And there was a very very filthy line that that I took him put in my act um. Yeah it's it's, it's but didn't go to waste, It didn't go to still over the top. If you if you're just tuning in, we're talking to Jackie Martling. He has a new book out, The Joke Man About to Stern. Yeah, and you can order it Jackie the joke Man dot com. The u R L comes it brings up the Amazon page. It's available on Kindle, on audio book, on audible with me and already Lange doing already Lang actually uh did the recording of his forward and it's also on hardcover. And I'm very excited. But people used to say, we could always tell you when tell when you wrote a joke, because how hard you laughed. And I said, that's not totally true, because Robin laughed the same. Like if Howard said, oh look there's a car driving down the road, look at this to two juice walking to bar me my laugh was totally in conjunction with how funny something was. I like to think that a lot of stuff I wrote was really funny. So I put up a joke and he'd said and I'd roar. But if Fred wrote something funny, I would roll. If Howard said there was so many times I went home and my wife Nancy'd say, oh, you know, the funniest thing you wrote today was blah blah blah. And I don't know Howard said that on his own, jee, but you screamed laughing because it was funny. I wasn't there to promote myself. I was there to promote the show. For it wrote something that was really funny, I would laugh really, really hard. Absolutely, you have to be a very unselfish person to write jokes for others and not tell them yourself. I I absolutely I created that job. I mean, I know you're doing it, but thank you. It was. It was. It didn't exist in the old days when the radio stars had writers. They would give them stuff during commercial you know, and they come back to it. Doing it on the fly was and you couldn't do it with anybody. I don't know how. I'm sure Elvis is great too, but the the concept of doing it wouldn't have worked unless they're the person. Is that brilliant that they can be carrying a conversation and look, you know, I was told people, it's like Howard's driving the car and I was reading the map. You know, if you're driving the car, no matter how good a driver you are, you can look at the road map. So I could just sit there and and I was like, I was like the marksman that could just you know, pick people off while he was driving. So it was it just it just works so big time. And there's some great stories in the book. You know, I'm excited to read the book when it comes out. Obviously have to know everything because I want to everything. The title of the book is a bow to Stern. So my question is, and I know it's open to interpretation. Interesting you maybe not him too wide for a lot of girls, nice, scary, flexible. Now the term about Astern. If Howard said that title, I know he would mean it. And I'm the king of all media about to me. Do you mean it as in you had to bow to him? Is it's sarcastic that you had bow to Stern? Is front to back? You know, beginning to end. But anybody reads that book, thank you bow to Stern. I didn't, and you know, to a certain degree I did. I totally respect the guy and love the guy. There was because didn't bow to Stern. You know what's crazy. I you know, we've done a lot of these interviews today, so I remember what I said to who. But there's a there's so many people are like, you're so crazy to leave because they would have sat there for free. They'd give anything to be in that room. I said, that's not how it works. And I said that. You know, one years ago I said, oh my god, I'll do it, and I did it for a year, but I wouldn't do it for free. Now, yeah, you know, like like you're so lucky to be there. And I was making a lot of money. When you see how much money, I mean, even as radio guys, you're gonna go that idiot, but we were printing money. I was fried. You know. I give all the parameters and people can make their own decisions, and all this is in the book right at the time when you left. Every single penny of the negotiation, what I was making when I was all in there, it's all in there, cause I remember following along, and I know that there was a feeling that, well, if you asked for something, if it was reasonable, you'd think how it would step up and say this man needs to get this money. Make it happen. Now people will read this and some people think it was unreasonable. Some people think it was reasonable. But the point is we're making so that they were printing money. And if it was a different time in radio for people that are just listening to this, h you know, these are the good old days anymore. Fifty five stations and we were, you know, number number one, so many of them, and we really were kicking ask and I had, depending on who you talk to, a lot to do with the rise, you know, a lot of them with his sense of humor, you know. And people said, well, if you were such a big deal, why doesn't he need you Now, I'm like, you know it, teach a man to fish, he keeps fishing after you die. You know. He was always funny and always brilliant. I just I just helped at a time when it really made sense. I've listened to the show. I listened to his replace because obviously we're on the air. When he's on the air, there's a difference in the show. And I'm not saying that because you're here. I I'm not a fan of people who have stepped in since you're gone. Um, although they were talented on their own, they was stand up comics. Um, I didn't think a fit. I thought they tried to take the spotlight sometimes and make it about them. And I think what made you great on that show is you did laugh at Fred's jokes. You live to make him funny, and you laughed and reveled in the success of the show. But you didn't make it about you. I I really was a firm believer in all for one, one, one for all. And I was in my seat and when I left, it was dollars and cents. It wasn't I want more billing. I want this to be special. I want Thursday to be Jackie Day. It was just like push a few more. Shekels over here with kicking ass, if he if he said tomorrow. And I'm sure you've been askeding a million times, Hey, come on, Jackie, let's do a deal. Is on the phone, I mean what would you say? What I mean? Would you would you have that conversation at this stage of your life. Of course, you know it was so much fun. You know, I'll tell you that what's really funny. Uh. I was really in a tough place. You know. They say, if you're the same thing happens nine times, you're crazy if you think it's gonna change a hundredth time. After fifteen years, I couldn't make myself taking nap. I couldn't, and me and my wife, we wouldn't record Lawn Order and watch it the next night at seven o'clock. We'd watched Lawn Order at ten o'clock and then they tease something on the news, and every I'd be up. I don't think I went to bed before nine o'clock twice in fifteen years, always eleven eleven. By Wednesday, I was downright ornery, and I was crazy. You know, you're going and sit in the show, have a sip of coffee, and we're off to the races for five hours. I was on fire. Then I drive home and by the time I got the bay Fell, I'm ready to bite somebody's head off. So I was so miserable. I had a lot of money. I was kicking ass. I was making hay while the sun shines because they were paying me so much money to stand up, and I was really you know, I'm headlining in Chicago on fire, but I am so fried and so frazzled. But all I would have had to do, literally is come home, shut myself off, and take a two hour, three hour nap in the afternoon, and I would have been good to go. I could not make myself do that. And as stupid as it sounds, you know, was your mind racing. We just restless. I just I just wouldn't do it. I refuse to to cow tow and give up my life for the silly show, which was ridiculous because it was so much fun and everything connected. But the irony of the whole thing is I tell everybody I'm seventy. I'm really sixty nine. But when you say you're sixty nine, everybody's head goes and I got to explain I'm not making a dick joke. I really am sixty nine. So I just say I'm seventy. I'm seventy years old. All I want to do, it's taken nap. When I wake up in the morning, I swear to God, when I wake up the morning, the first thing going through my mind is when am I going to get to lie down again? If you told me, all right, here's the deal. We're gonna pay you a million dollars a year. But the caveat is you have to take a nap every day, I would say, put on your pants, puch is somebody. Now, all I want to do is take a nap. And if I could have taken a nap in two thousand and one, I would still be there because I knew I wouldn't. You've done You've done all this. You now you have the book here, but you know you You've toured, You've done a million things. What do you do with your free time? What is what does Jackie do when Jackie is in detoxo mode? Now you know what My whole life is detox mode. I wake up in the morning and I live on the water. I still swim. It's October. I still swim in Long Island Sound. You know. I go to lunch with my pals, I do my dial a joke, I do my jokes for Twitter. I talk on the phone to this guy at this club that club, and and just you know, and then I go out to a screening and I just you know, I go to can I go to Toronto, I go to Sundance. In those places, I'm still trying to finagle my way into the film business, you know, which is just such a who I'm actually in a in a sitcom pilot now that's gonna get picked up at the age of seventy. I'm finally gonna get rich, just in time to die. But it's called shoot Me Nicely. And actually the trailer is that shoot Me Nicely dot com and Linda Hamilton's is in our sitcom last week? Then now I said, Lynda Hamilton's and James Cameron Schwarzenegger and making a sequel determinator, So we're made because she loves our show, she loves doing comedy. But one that we're back in the headlines and sitcom world was this what was seventy years I'm waiting for an accident like that. But it's it's great fun and I still, you know, people say, do you still enjoy doing your act? And I know I'm crazy because I'll go to Vegas and I I'm being a show with five other comics to two thousand people and kill and have a great time. And then I come home and three days later I'm in Jersey for hundred and twenty people and I and I love that too, And I don't know whether I'm hypnotized. I love telling my stupid as an intimacy to a small club. And the bottom line is as a comic. You you know this. There's a power and a feeling and an energy for making people laugh. It's just it's a gift that you have. I do it, you know, if I'm buying a sandwich in the Delhi, or if I'm with the cab driver, you know, or a couple of girls in a bar. You know. I I live to tell my stupid jokes and make people laugh. And I just really do love it. People don't understand that I tell the story. When I was in school, I was the same way I am now, and the teachers would say, oh, you're immature, you're not responsible, you don't know when to be quiet. Your mouths and get you in trouble. Now, thanks to this career I have, Thank you, you get to be funny. I was at a hospital yesterday. Made the nurse laugh, the doctor laughed, the patient next door was laughing. And it makes your life. Yes, I tell people I was fifteen years on the stern show. I was the kid in the back of the class passing notes, the only difference being I was doing it with the teachers full encouragement. What do you What do you feel about stand up comics today and sensitivity of the public. I don't know. I don't care. I still do my act. It's politically as incorrect as it can be, and I just don't care. You know, I've never gone overboard bad. But you know, a little ethnic and a little bit religious and everything and then duty and poop and sex and and you don't believe in the term too soon, do you? Because I don't believe in that term. You know who knows? You know, it's it's people are all crazy, you know. Joan Rivers was just brilliant the day after nine eleven. The day after nine eleven, she called a girlfriend and said, you want to go to lunch at Windows on the ground. I mean, what kind of mine? But you know you're not gonna it's not gonna go back up if you don't talk about it. You know, it's like it's all you gotta find humor and tragedy. That's that's how people get through it. And it's also it's all point of view, and it's a you know, mel mel Brooks's definition of comedy and tragedy the razor's edge. But what's his No, No, that comedy and tragedy is tragedy is when I stubbed my toe, and comedy is when you fall off a clip. It's all perspective and that's all it is. One other thing, you know, So so late My TV show host James Cordon was on stage and he did a couple of jokes in his monologue at an amphar event right about how the Westein did a couple of Howard how he wants Howard Weinstein Harvey ROMs like good, good god Harvey. Right, anyway, he did a couple of jokes and the audience groaned, and then Twitter and social media had a huge backlash against him, and then he and he came out on the next day and apologized what are your thoughts on stuff like that? And the way and they were against him, they were embarrassing the guy jerk and Weinstein too. You know who cares Weinstein? You know he's he's been a jerk forever. I knew people that know him from way way, way way back. And you know, no that you don't take the gloves off when it comes to him. You know, if it's insensitive to the women, but it isn't you know the guys that jerk and it's the elephant in the room not to make a bad joke. You know, everybody knew. Everybody gossip and Cornin was shaming him, and people failed to see that. On social media, people can all you know what you know what? Uh, what's his name? I can't think that guy's name, not Dayton, Allen whatever his name was, had the greatest opinion. He say, the people can't take a joke. We should take all the people that can't take a joke and put him in the canyon so the rest of us can stand on the edge on the rim of the canyon and piss on him. You know, I mean, come on to hell with him, h Allen Smith. That's OK. It's just brilliant. In the in the fifteen years of you being on the Stern Show, there was craziness in the studio, naked women. I'm sure a lot of that's in the book. What's the one thing that stood out to you and putting the book together that you said, in your mind was the craziest thing that you remember experiencing and thinking, I can't believe I'm getting paid to be in this situation. I have to put it in the book. Is there one thing that stands out among all the other craziness? No, there was so many. But when we were on stage at the Magic Johnson Show and me and Fred and Howard and Scott, we're playing wipe Out and then stopping and instead of the drum solo, there was a guy and a girl farting. I was like, we're on national TV. We're getting paid a lot of money to play a song that I played in seventh grade and these people are farting on national TV. This is by farn You know what happened? Magic Johnson. Howard made such fun of Magic Johnson because his monologues was so atrocious that Howard played the whole thing and make fun of him. And Magic Johnson called up and said, I want you to come on my show. And Howard said, listen, Magic Johnson wants me on the show. I can't go on that show, so give me something to tell him that we'll do that he won't do. Sobby and Fred came up, Let's tell him, you know, well, we'll play with. Our band was called the Losers because Hoard had a whole thing about everybody wants to have a band. You know, this football star and this rock and I mean this movie star. They all want to have a band. You know, just like every band. The lead singer wants to be the guitar player, and the drumma wants to be a vegetarian. Everybody can go to hell. And so Fred and Meek came up with the idea, we'll play wipe out and have people fart at the break and would They said fine, and they booked. Doesn't like, well, we was supposed to be a joke. We didn't think they say, they went for it and they flew us out first class and we went out and had a week in Los Angeles. Was the greatest time, and that, you know, that was one of those crazy times. But there was so many times. You know, you're sitting there with you know, a girl had you know, and she was auditioning for the pay per view and she had her her clitterers pierced. That was her audition for the show, and I'm like, what is this that? What you know? One of the greatest, greatest, greatest was we did the Butt Bongo Fiesta, and we did Tarzan and the Land of the Big Bulbed Women, and we brought an elephant, the same guy that brought us monkeys. And you know, we did the Channel Line show where we had the Nativity sign scene. Then activity scene had goats and sheep and an organ grinder. I mean, you can't make that crap. I was so beautiful. So we bring an elephant and the I'm gonna start gagging. The elephant came up in the freight elevator and walked out and I'm telling you, you've never seen anything like it. This elephant took a three foot toool dump. It was imagine the heat of a TV studio and then he he let go and his urine was literally a fire hose onto the onto the you know, the the tile floor splattering, and we're all laughing and gagging. And one of the techies had to come home for what does no trouble and put the tongue and it's the old joke, like you know what quick show is this? Yeah, it was literally shot. The great thing is at the end of the Bud Bongo Fiesta videotape, as the credits are rolling they have the out tape and and that you know, I'm sitting there going this is this is the life. I remember when bud Toongo Fiesta came out and everybody was passing that tape around school and the New Year's Eve party tapes. You guys did everything above and beyond radio. It wasn't just a show. It was a TV show, it was a movie, it was books. I mean, your show was the king of all media. Your show did everything. It was the Channel nine show still is insanity, crazy, crazy, crazy fun. And I loved. I really did love every second of it. And I did not leave under any kind of animosity or I want more than us. From all I wanted it was more money because I thought I deserved it. And when people read it, they're gonna, you know, people are like, oh, he walked away from three million dollars. You know, nobody has any idea. So it's funny in the and and the journey that got me to Stern, which is very interesting, and the whole organic thing of writing those notes. It's it's so weird because there's like the missing link. I mean, at some point it was like I just I got a little bit. The more I put them up there, and the more you used them, more secure I felt about just doing it, you know, And it was it was inherently just inherently fit. It just worked, you know. It's it's so funny. I'm telling you, I don't know how your show is. I'm sure it's the same. The day I walked in, it was. Yeah, I walked in. It was Howard, Robin and Fred and we clicked. And at the time I didn't know anything about radio or anything about that, so I didn't know any better and it was so great. But to this day, if I call in and they take a phone call, I'm telling you we snapped into our roles. Of course, you know it's me, Howard, Fred and Robin, and it's you know, if I walk into that room, whether they like it or not, it's instant. You know. They had the when they were leaving Trestrial Radio. The last week they had a bunch of people on. Now the very last day they had a rally. So I wasn't there, but the last two words Howard said on Terrestrial Radio, where f Jackie, did you know that? Which was pretty nice. So the day before their last show, I came on and I was a little weird about going on. You know, there has been five years, and I don't know how much they're gonna attack me and be crazy and be rude and mean. And did I really think that. I don't know what I really thought, but I walked in and from the second I walked in, you know, it's me and Howard and Fred and Robin, and it was just so it was just delightful. And I'm sitting there and Gary came in and sat down, and I'm telling you, this was so I wonder if it's on very It was so magical because I looked at Gary and then I turned to Howard and he saw the smile on my face and he smiled and he said, you'd like that, don't you. I said, Howard, there will never be a day that I look at that mouth and I'm not completely entertained. We just laughed for five minutes because that that was the whole show. And Gary's, you know, sitting and shaking his head, and the more he shook his head, the harder we laughed. You know, well, you guys made history. You made um a job for me, You made a job for a lot of people in radio who have tried to emulate for thirty years, now forty years, what you guys did, what you guys and what you figured out on your own, not being a radio guy. Gratitude. Yeah, I can't tell you how flattering this is. I've never heard that from anyone or you know, the White Paper and I write jokes and he really does. They throw them in front of him and he works everything you're described. When you just went through that earlier in this interview, I'm like, oh my god, he's describing what Brodie does for Elvis every day. That's that's so fun and and honestly, the thing about the Howard Show is uh, and this is even when you were were on it, I was, I was here. We overlapped when you were on the show, and I was on the show. People if you if you work for Chrysler, and I said, what do you do for living? I work for Chrysler. They don't say, oh, I drive a Cadillac. But if I say I work for a radio show, they go listen to Howard. You don't even have to ask them, right, and so they go, I don't listen to your show. I listen to Howard. What do you do? Legitimately, as I told you before. I go, well, I'm sort of Jackie the joke man. Oh really, you're right jokes, you're funny. I go, yep, that's all I had to say. And then they want to hear the whole thing I should put on my business card. Elvis is Jack and I'm sort of a Gary and he's yeah, it's bad breadth, it's perfect, it's perfect. So first of all, you gotta get wine scenes name right, Yeah, Ptice. I have every note I ever wrote, fan, every note I ever wrote that Howard said, isn't my mother's attic. I'm gonna I'm gonna email you gotta give me your card. Stacks and stacks and stacks and stacks. If if you took if you said, all right, I have a tape of I would Stern show from April fIF I could get that stack and you could listen to it, and if you could follow follow the bouncing ball, you know when he said something hystorical and I'm laughing, and there it is. If you put a book out where every page was a joke and and then put a description of the set up or let it up to imagination, it would be fantastic. None, none of them are funny because they're all in context. It's all a phrase, a word, a half a sentence. It was all just punch ups of what was going on the audio and follow along. On our podcast, I do a segment called Unused Jokes and I and I just I read the stack and that we didn't get to and I'll just go, ah, so that's why she's a potato face. And I'll go to next uh, Dickam and Dickham of Beverly Hills and whatever, and I just read them and and it's the same thing on their own. You don't know what they are. When the whole computer things started to happen, I resisted and I never did it because I thought, how funny would it be for me to sit here with the computer that people can access and just listen to the show and write what I would have written if I was sitting there. But you know, I, you know, I wasn't gonna do that kind of crap, you know, but it would would be funny, you know, you know, the road not taken. You know, that's why that's very funny that you're doing that. We should go to lunch and shoot the breeze. You gotta tell Elvis durand that something. Yeah. Absolutely well. Listen The joke Man bout Astern by Jackie Martling. Uh, tell us again where to get it, where it's able Jackie the joke Man dot Com. The Amazon page pops up. It's in hardcover, it's in kindle, and it's also inaudible with Alreadie Lange reading his forward and me reading my whole book. If you want to find out where the book, signings are called five one, six, nine to two wine and I give all the uh the locations and times. And it's also on my website joke Land dot com, Slash books, I nings book, slash what a book, hyphen signings, whatever. But I'm doing Ridgwood, New Jersey on Monday, I'm doing book review in Huntington's Tuesday, Upper east Side Barnes and Noble on Thursday, the Vault that Filler Records on Saturday in Berlin, New Jersey, and then west Side Slip Long Island, the Jackson Restaurant. And the response is just phenomenal. I'm really loving it. And this this was the PS two resistance to the whole day. This really made my day. Thanks you well, thanks for doing assistance. We we booked the interviews so we would have to wait online at the bookstores. This was just easy for us. I totally get that. Jackie, thank you and your a legend, even if you don't think you are. Thank you. All right, we're back in our sto. That was fantastic. No, but that interview with Jackie was amazing. That was a nice piece. But no, but us running down the hall back in this studio again. Yeah, it sounded weird. Well you were running for a minute. I was like, you don't need to run, it's pre recorded. I knowed alright. So thank you for listening to the bonus episode of the Brooklyn Boys and broke. That was that's too late, can't We didn't end get the bonus episode rong. We gave them another oneber one episode. Third people see Boys Brooklyn Brocklin Boys Rock Brockols